[colug-432] Links
Steve VanSlyck
s.vanslyck at spamcop.net
Sun Feb 3 15:33:52 EST 2013
Links are to everything in /public_html/w/
and were placed in /public_html/brc
by mistake.
They should've been put in /public_html/brc/w/
I would be moving them using the cpanel remote web hosting management app.
I can't get shell access right now and was tired of waiting for it, so I
asked tech support to do it for me and gave them incorrect instructions.
On 2/3/2013 15.21, Rick Hornsby wrote:
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:07 , Steve VanSlyck <s.vanslyck at spamcop.net
> <mailto:s.vanslyck at spamcop.net>> wrote:
>
>> Can I cut and paste symlinks from a directory to one its
>> subdurectories and they will still work?
>>
> That depends on how the symlink was constructed, and if your window
> manager understands how to deal with symlinks. Most do, but I'm not
> sure if any of them will rewrite the link if you try to move it. Most
> of my Linux work over the last few years has been focused on the
> server side with no window managers in sight, so I'm not sure what
> progress or changes may have come about.
>
> To the symlinks themselves:
>
> Moving a relative link, foo to bar aka foo -> bar, would not work
> unless you moved both foo and bar to the same place. That
> construction is fairly common, and expects the files to stay in the
> same directory.
>
> Moving an absolute link, foo to /usr/local/lib/bar should work fine.
> However, relative links can get more complicated than that, ie foo ->
> ../../bar would break if you moved foo, because you've changed the
> context that foo lives in, to where it is going up two directories
> looking for bar, when it should be (for example) three.
>
> I would recommend that instead of futzing with the window manager, if
> you want to move a symlink, do it from a shell by removing the old
> symlink and creating the new one.
>
> If you have a symlink /path/to/my_cool_app ->
> /home/steveo/projects/my_cool_app, you'd want to
>
> rm -i /path/to/my_cool_app; ln -s /home/steveo/projects/my_cool_app
> /path/to/new/symlink
>
> (I always have to remind myself that a symlink is target, link.)
>
> Check out the man page for ln(1).
>>
>> Just like with windows?
>>
> Windows has no concept of symlinks*, which has over the years caused
> me no end of headaches. Windows has shortcuts, which are an entirely
> different thing and a poor excuse for something useful. Shortcuts are
> actual files that contain the metadata needed to locate the target,
> usually using an absolute path. That's why it seems that moving them
> around works without any problems. Most of the time I found that the
> only thing which could understand shortcuts was Windows itself. Very
> few applications could follow the shortcut to the target.
>
> However, if you've ever tried to use a shortcut from the command line,
> you can't. Because it isn't a symlink. It is simply a .lnk file that
> the Microsoft Windows window manager (Explorer) knows how to deal with.
>
> A symlink is fundamentally built into the various *nix filesystems,
> and to most applications, indistinguishable from the target
> file/directory unless said app is checking to see if what they're
> looking at is a symlink.
>
> -rick
>
>
> * That's not 100% true. At some point, Microsoft introduced the
> concept of file "junctions" into NTFS which were a half-assed attempt
> to imitate the behavior of symlinks. From what I remember, it was
> poorly documented, hardly anyone knew they existed (not well
> published), and they only worked from the command line though I could
> be wrong about that.
>
>
>
>
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