[colug-432] possible LAN issues - tcp retransmits

Rick Troth rmt at casita.net
Wed May 27 13:14:20 EDT 2015


I haven't digested the full story, but retransmits per-se are not a bad
thing.

The alternative (to retrans) is buffering, which here would lead to
bloated buffers.
Buffer bloat is the single biggest problem (as I read things) with
residential internet service.
So ... in that context, don't fear the retrans.

If some bit of plumbing (between you and any specific service) is
clogged, either of two things can happen: You'll get retransmissions as
both end points try to adjust (per the design of TCP) or you'll get
buffer bloat as some party between them treats every packet as sacred.
The latter screws up the ability of the end points to deal with the
problem.

Your ARP table has me a little worried. Do you have an open WiFi hotspot
somewhere? Or maybe some device on your (secured) WiFi or LAN going rogue?

Please pardon the top-post. I normally interleave.

-- R; <><


On 05/22/2015 06:13 PM, Rick Hornsby wrote:
> Background (skip this for the short version below) -
> Had a wide spread residential ISP outage a few weeks ago.  It was only 
> down for a couple of hours, but when it came back the IPTV service was 
> bad - lots of pixelation and lost audio, etc - but it was also 
> intermittent.  The problem is not related to the TV, the HDMI cables or 
> anything like that - the same DVR'd program shows the same problems at 
> the same time on two different TVs (common DVR storage).  The problem 
> also happened on live tv (so not a DVR storage-specific issue).
>
> After a few calls, they sent a tech out.  By the time he came out, the 
> problem seemed to mostly be cleared up on its own - I couldn't 
> demonstrate the problem on live tv.  He said that I wasn't the only one 
> complaining, that they'd found some part common to several houses that 
> was misbehaving (OLT maybe?).  He also did a couple of things in the 
> house - changed an RG-6 filter, re-did an ethernet cable.
>
> Everything looked fine when he left, but a day or so later a TV show 
> that was recorded had the really bad pixelation and audio again.  I 
> called and they escalated the ticket.  Since then, it seems to be fine - 
> a minor glitch or two is all I've noticed.  The ISP called yesterday to 
> follow up with me, told them it seemed to be fine.  They queried me 
> about what kind of gear was on the network in the house, and relayed 
> that they noticed a large amount of "chatter".  When I pressed the guy 
> on the phone, he said that the notes said it looked like a lot of tcp 
> retransmit packets and that it might be a source of a problem.  He also 
> said that it usually happens because some piece of equipment is failing.
>
> Query -
> I found some info on the interwebs about using tshark like so:
>
>      tshark -Y "tcp.analysis.retransmission" -Tfields -e ip.src -e ip.dst
>
> I'm not sure what to do with this information, or what constitutes an 
> unacceptable volume of retransmits. (This isn't showing me anything 
> about the rest of the un-retransmitted traffic for comparison.)  tshark 
> on the basement server (archer) is spitting out a pair of IP addresses 
> (one itself, one remote) - maybe 250 of them in the last 20 minutes?  
> I'm running the same tshark command on my OSX box upstairs (aztec), but 
> it doesn't have a counter.  Maybe 50 in the last 15 minutes?
>
> I ran an ISP speed test from aztec (Flash based, so can't run it on 
> archer) and there was a burst of transmit packets (50? 100?) says 
> tshark.  No idea if this is normal?
>
> I don't know if this is related, but on archer, the arp table is full of 
> LAN IP addresses for devices that don't exist.  There are 64 devices in 
> the table (The DHCP server shows only 12 devices with leases, which 
> seems more accurate), 45 of which are showing "incomplete".  aztec only 
> has 1 incomplete entry, the rest look like they belong there.
>
> Any thoughts on what to look at or how to better use tshark?  Is 
> archer's arp table weirdness a red herring?
>
>
> thanks!
> -rj
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