<div dir="ltr"><div><div>I can't really speak to the product since it's debut after I left Red Hat, but I will say that from my personal observation, Red Hat really tries to use open standards and protocols whenever possible. The core of Red Hat employees are still very focused on this. In fact, IMHO, there are folks at Red Hat who simply don't understand why Red Hat doesn't just make everything available for free. Some of the conversations on Red Hat's internal memo-list are absolutely hilarious to read when these conversations come up, and they come up regularly. There is considerable internal pressure at Red Hat to open source everything possible, although those voices are sometimes offset by the business folks at Red Hat who don't necessarily see things through the same OSS oriented lenses and don't really understand OSS.<br>
<br></div>I'll have to say that the focus on OSS in combination with the focus on management tools was a huge positive for me during my time at Red Hat. I've been an advocate of "roll your own" management solutions such as cfengine+SCM+kickstart etc. (please don't someone come back with comments about puppet, not talking about the individual tools here) for my entire career, RHN Satellite was one of the few products that's I've ever worked with from the systems management aspect that I would advocate even if not still selling for Red Hat, especially if you aren't going to devote real resources to; not only rolling your own solution, but documenting it properly and following good coding and development processes. Why? It's a product based on an open source project, so I can have direct contribution into the development if I so choose, and yet it gets me out of the business of maintaining the the "big ball of mud" that most cobbled together "roll your own" management solutions devolve into.<br>
<br></div>As long as Red Hat doesn't get pulled to far off it's OSS path by the business folks, I think you will continue to see this focus from Red Hat.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Rick Troth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rmt@casita.net" target="_blank">rmt@casita.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Jim's report is fascinating.<br>
<br>
Does it speak open protocols? (I mean both ways ... other things can<br>
plug it and drive it, and it can drive other things.)<br>
<br>
I've been evangelizing common tools and open standards for managing<br>
virtualized environments for more than a decade. Even set-up a<br>
mailing list, and several people joined. But nuthin happened. [sigh]<br>
These days, since people are mixing-and-matching hypervisors, maybe<br>
common grounds will get some traction?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Apr 19, 2013 9:52 AM, "Jim Wildman" <<a href="mailto:jim@rossberry.com">jim@rossberry.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Ok, so I'm now an @redhat employee, so season to taste...<br>
><br>
> I looked at this product about a year ago (before I joined RHT) and<br>
> liked what I saw. Now that I've seen it up close (and talked to<br>
> customers who have it installed)...wow...<br>
><br>
> For a first cut by a small company (MIQ had 37 employees, 10 engineers)<br>
> it is an amazing tool for high level management of virtualized<br>
> environments. It is really targetted at companies with hundreds to<br>
> thousands of VM's, but I think it will move downstream<br>
> quickly...particularly once we finish the open sourcing of the code.<br>
><br>
> I highly encourage attendance if you have any interest in<br>
> virtualization. FYI, we just rebranded this product as CloudForms 2.0.<br>
> Manage IQ will go away.<br>
><br>
> Do you know who is doing the presenting?<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, Scott Merrill wrote:<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > Red Hat will be in town next month and would like to give a demo of their<br>
> > ManageIQ product to COLUG.<br>
> ><br>
> > We need a venue for the evening of Wednesday, May 15.<br>
> ><br>
> > Anyone have a reasonably-sized facility they can make available?<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks!<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> Jim Wildman, CISSP, RHCE <a href="mailto:jim@rossberry.com">jim@rossberry.com</a> <a href="http://www.rossberry.net" target="_blank">http://www.rossberry.net</a><br>
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