<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Rick: The kmod-nvidia was indeed installed in the RPM database by akmod magic at boot time. Unless yum uses a different database than the rpm tool, find that hard to imagine.<br><br></div><div>
recap I:<br></div><div>yum erase kmod-nvidia<br></div><div>yum install akmod-nvidia<br></div><div>reboot ( multiple s :) <br></div><div>discovered missing kernel-PAE-devel thus X not happy.<br></div><div>yum install kernel-PAE-devel<br>
</div><div>reboot X comes up.<br></div><div>test yum update suggests updates for kmod-nvidia???<br></div><div>since I had yum erase kmod-nvidia* prior to the boot, was surprised it wanted to update kmod-nvidia.<br></div>
<div>did yet another yum erase kmod-nvidia* which is where I see the message RPMDB was updated by some one other than yum.<br></div><div>run yum update which installed new kernel ( and more, chuff ).<br></div><div>reboot.<br>
</div><div>And surprise yet another kmod-nvidia shows as installed.<br></div><div>Well at least I found that for some reason i don't need kernel-devel, which I'm pretty sure kmod-nvidia installed way back when.<br>
</div><div>akmod definately wants kernel-PAE-devel to build its magic.<br><br><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br></div>Patrick: I already looked at that link . It say no reason for installing both akmod and kmod which is why I removed the kmod and when I see it gets automagically installed at boot time is why I posted here.<br>
</div>As you mentioned, advantageous.... I've seen times when the kmod was not available for several weeks. I was annoyed because it was just after using fedup to migrate off f18 ( dropped support ) to f19. The upgrade was painful, fedup didn't support my firmware raid system. I had to run on a f18 kernel ( while on f19 ) for the weeks till both new kmod and new kernel arrived. The happy folks at bugzilla closed or ignored my bug on fedup, then a week later wanted documentation that I would have had to roll my system back to f18 to get. Haven't looked to see if bug I reported on fedup still there. <br>
<br><br></div>I have decided the post you referred to is incorrect in saying no reason to have both installed, cause akmod installs the other.<br><br><div><div>----------<br></div><div>Vince<br></div><div><br></div></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Patrick Shuff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:patrick.shuff@gmail.com" target="_blank">patrick.shuff@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">kmod-nvidia are the pre-compiled version of the nvidia video kernel modules and are tied to (compiled against) specific kernel versions and then someone uploads them to the yum repos. The "akmod" versions, as you pointed out, will check at boot-time to see if the proper nvidia kernel modules are available, and if they aren't then it will compile the necessary bits against your current kernel-headers. This is advantageous if you like to install the newest kernels available in the fedora repos and someone hasn't yet put up the kmod-nvidia package for the new kernel or if you are into building/using custom kernels to which there will never be a pre-compiled version of kmod-nvidia. <br>
<br>Some more reading on the topic: <a href="http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=227214" target="_blank">http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=227214</a></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
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On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Vince Herried <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Vince@planetvince.com" target="_blank">Vince@planetvince.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Any one know how this works?</p>
<p>I removed all the kmod-nvida and installed akmod-nvida.<br>
leaving out a lot of dialog, I find that akmod-nvidia, apparently at boot time, at least before i get logged in with X runnning, installs kmod-nvidia ( I re-removed kmod-nvidia and see a grumble that RPMDB was updated outside yum.) Then after re-boot kmod-nvidia is re-installed!</p>
<p>I need to do some digging, where do one send bug reports on such?<br>
The akmod-nvidia didn't install all the reqs for it to re-build. After several attempts to get X going, I find /var/log/messages has grumble of missing devel, install it and all is well. akmod-nvidia installed a bunch of reqs but missed kernel-PAE-devel. I didn't even know there was a different devel for the PAE.</p>
<p>If any one going to do install, my recommendation don't yum erase kmod-nvidia, cause it removes a BIG library that akmod is gonna re-install and seems that akmod-nvidia needs kmod-nvidia. Almost acts like akmod-nvidia 'desires' kmod-nvidia but doesn't require? I suppose if i really needed to know, i should try boot with no network access.<br>
</p>
<p>I must be getting a tiny bit smarter, this cycle of broken X11 only lasted couple of hours or so, much less than previous times.</p>
<p>---<br>
Vince</p>
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