<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>But Russ - all of the things you mention are operational things. I personally don't think the idea of "DevOps" is ready for larger enterprise shops. </div><div><br></div><div>Larger shops and self-serve are often times difficult to put into the same sentence. </div><div><br></div><div>It's not that they don't want it, they just struggle with the organizational complexities that form barriers to making that a reality. </div><div><br>On Oct 16, 2014, at 6:55 AM, R Herrold <<a href="mailto:herrold@owlriver.com">herrold@owlriver.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr"><br>
On Oct 16, 2014 6:02 AM, "Jim Wildman" <<a href="mailto:jim@rossberry.com">jim@rossberry.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<p dir="ltr">> IMO... MS has a big problem in that it is hard to run MS based<br>
> applications on the cloud infrastructures like AWS and OpenStack </p>
<p dir="ltr">We have Windows Server instances running at PMman (libvirt based, but not Open Stack), but automating deployment, relocation, and self-service backup, clone and restore have been. .<br>
.. Slow to gel in the customer UI</p>
<p dir="ltr">Being able to get image to a well defined minimum and to a gold master which then may be 'step and repeat' deployed is our goal. </p>
<p dir="ltr">-- Russ herrold<br>
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