<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the info, encouragement and veiled threat to destroy my Yoga. If I can drag myself outta bed early tomorrow morning I may head down to Stauf's, kick start my brain with Yirgecheffe and see if I can find some help.<div><br></div><div>Denny</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:00 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:colug-432-request@colug.net" target="_blank">colug-432-request@colug.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send colug-432 mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro<br>
(Dennis Reeder)<br>
2. Re: Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro<br>
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3. Re: Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro (Rob Funk)<br>
4. Re: Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro<br>
(Eric Floehr)<br>
5. Re: Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro (Rob Funk)<br>
6. Re: Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro<br>
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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:30:53 -0500<br>
From: Dennis Reeder <<a href="mailto:reeder1968@gmail.com">reeder1968@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2<br>
Pro<br>
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I have been struggling, both desperately and unsuccessfully, to install<br>
Mint on a relatively new Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro. I have installed a new mSata<br>
ssd into the laptop. I have partitioned it correctly. Windows 8.1 is<br>
working perfeclty from one of the partitions. A new fresh version of Mint<br>
is installed in the other partition. However I cannot get it to boot into<br>
Mint.<br>
<br>
I believe that I am very close to having the project done....yet I still<br>
cannot get the machine to boot into the Linux OS. Need GRUB bootloader,<br>
need to disable something? Arggghhhh.<br>
<br>
A little background here. I am a novice nooby struggling to learn while I<br>
am doing it. I am enjoying the trip but it has now gotten to the point of<br>
frustration and the fun factor is rapidly diminishing. Particularly since<br>
I am not able to use the Lenovo Yoga and/or learn more about Mint.<br>
<br>
I am a Mac OS user and have been since .... well the beginning back in<br>
'84. I am also fairly competent, at least to some degree, with Android.<br>
I am not very fluent in Windows at all. The goal is to keep 8.1 on the<br>
Yoga jsut in case I need it for something down the road (or to migrate to<br>
Windows 10 or whatever). I would like to become proficient enough in<br>
Ubuntu/Mint to wean myself off of OS X.<br>
<br>
I installed Mint (and Ubuntu) on an Asus laptop about two months ago and<br>
sampled each. Decided I liked Mint. But it was the sole OS on the<br>
machine....no Windows. So booting into another OS was not part of the<br>
equation. And that apparently made things a helluva lot easier during the<br>
install.<br>
<br>
As I mentioned I think (almost absolutely positive) that I have Mint<br>
correctly installed. It is there. But the problem lies in the boot. I<br>
think I have done most of the hard (ie labor intensive if I can even use<br>
that term) work already. And what remains to be done should be (fingers<br>
crossed) pretty simple.<br>
<br>
Any suggestions? Recommendations. Anyone willing to meet me at a<br>
coffeehouse, restaurant etc to help nail this down? I would be more than<br>
wiling to buy coffee, a sandwich, a Lamborghini Aventador....only kidding<br>
on the Lambo.<br>
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TIA<br>
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Denny<br>
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Denny<br>
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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:12:28 -0500<br>
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Subject: Re: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga<br>
2 Pro<br>
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:30:53 -0500, Dennis Reeder <<a href="mailto:reeder1968@gmail.com">reeder1968@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I have been struggling, both desperately and unsuccessfully, to install<br>
> Mint on a relatively new Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro.<br>
<br>
> Windows 8.1 is<br>
> working perfeclty from one of the partitions. A new fresh version of Mint<br>
> is installed in the other partition. However I cannot get it to boot into<br>
> Mint.<br>
<br>
> Any suggestions? Recommendations. Anyone willing to meet me at a<br>
> coffeehouse, restaurant etc to help nail this down?<br>
<br>
<a href="http://colug.net" target="_blank">colug.net</a> often says something like:<br>
<br>
As always, feel free to bring with you any ailing or<br>
problematic systems for expert diagnosis (or destruction).<br>
<br>
but it doesn't say when the next meeting will be.<br>
<br>
I have heard that there's an informal gathering of software<br>
types who appear at Stauf's Coffee Roasters 1277 Grandview<br>
Avenue early (6am? 7am?) on Thursday mornings. Look for geeks<br>
with laptops? Other software types might hang out there often<br>
between 8am and 9am.<br>
<br>
Linux types are amongst those who show up at the Python dojos.<br>
See <a href="http://cohpy.org" target="_blank">cohpy.org</a>.<br>
<br>
I do not know the solution to your problem. I wonder if<br>
secure boot is involved. Search the web for various<br>
combinations of linux, secure, boot, windows, and matthew garrett.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2aq5M3Q76U" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2aq5M3Q76U</a><br>
<a href="http://www.itworld.com/article/2737487/it-management/microsoft-washes-its-hands-of-uefi-linux-mess.html" target="_blank">http://www.itworld.com/article/2737487/it-management/microsoft-washes-its-hands-of-uefi-linux-mess.html</a><br>
<a href="http://www.crn.com.au/News/274817,windows-8-wont-kill-linux-says-microsoft.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.crn.com.au/News/274817,windows-8-wont-kill-linux-says-microsoft.aspx</a><br>
<a href="http://www.knowwindows.com/view/387650-secure-boot-not-compatible.html" target="_blank">http://www.knowwindows.com/view/387650-secure-boot-not-compatible.html</a><br>
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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:16:16 -0500<br>
From: Rob Funk <<a href="mailto:rfunk@funknet.net">rfunk@funknet.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga<br>
2 Pro<br>
To: Central OH Linux User Group - 432xx <<a href="mailto:colug-432@colug.net">colug-432@colug.net</a>><br>
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Dennis Reeder wrote:<br>
> I have been struggling, both desperately and unsuccessfully, to install<br>
> Mint on a relatively new Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro. I have installed a new mSata<br>
> ssd into the laptop. I have partitioned it correctly. Windows 8.1 is<br>
> working perfeclty from one of the partitions. A new fresh version of Mint<br>
> is installed in the other partition. However I cannot get it to boot into<br>
> Mint.<br>
><br>
> I believe that I am very close to having the project done....yet I still<br>
> cannot get the machine to boot into the Linux OS. Need GRUB bootloader,<br>
> need to disable something? Arggghhhh.<br>
<br>
I've only read about setting up Linux on these newfangled UEFI<br>
machines, but the first thing to try would be to configure the BIOS<br>
(or whatever they call it now) to disable Secure Boot.<br>
<br>
If you still can't get it to work after that, maybe switch it to<br>
Legacy Mode, though I'm not sure how Windows will like that.<br>
<br>
> As I mentioned I think (almost absolutely positive) that I have Mint<br>
> correctly installed. It is there. But the problem lies in the boot. I<br>
> think I have done most of the hard (ie labor intensive if I can even use<br>
> that term) work already. And what remains to be done should be (fingers<br>
> crossed) pretty simple.<br>
<br>
You didn't mention what error messages you get, or what happens when<br>
you try to boot Linux.<br>
<br>
By the way, the best thing I've found about running Linux on the Yoga<br>
2 Pro is about Arch Linux, but still might be useful:<br>
<a href="http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=3270" target="_blank">http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=3270</a><br>
<br>
I've been eyeing the Yoga 2 Pro for a while (and was really<br>
disappointed that Lenovo mangled the keyboard on its successor), so<br>
I'm hoping you can get things working.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:31:39 -0500<br>
From: Eric Floehr <<a href="mailto:eric@intellovations.com">eric@intellovations.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga<br>
2 Pro<br>
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This was likely true at one time, but I've personally successfully<br>
installed the most recent versions of Linux Mint[1], Ubuntu[2], and<br>
Fedora[3] with Secure Boot enabled. This is on a Lenovo t440s which is a<br>
cousin of the Yoga 2 Pro.<br>
<br>
So that likely isn't the problem. Whether or not Secure Boot is necessary,<br>
required, or preferred is a different question.<br>
<br>
[1]<br>
<a href="http://www.zdnet.com/linux-mint-17-hands-on-with-uefi-secure-boot-7000030092/" target="_blank">http://www.zdnet.com/linux-mint-17-hands-on-with-uefi-secure-boot-7000030092/</a><br>
[2]<br>
<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028388/two-ubuntu-linux-versions-can-now-work-with-secure-boot.html" target="_blank">http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028388/two-ubuntu-linux-versions-can-now-work-with-secure-boot.html</a><br>
[3] <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secureboot" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secureboot</a><br>
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> I've only read about setting up Linux on these newfangled UEFI<br>
> machines, but the first thing to try would be to configure the BIOS<br>
> (or whatever they call it now) to disable Secure Boot.<br>
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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:55:53 -0500<br>
From: Rob Funk <<a href="mailto:rfunk@funknet.net">rfunk@funknet.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga<br>
2 Pro<br>
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Eric Floehr wrote:<br>
> This was likely true at one time, but I've personally successfully<br>
> installed the most recent versions of Linux Mint[1], Ubuntu[2], and<br>
> Fedora[3] with Secure Boot enabled. This is on a Lenovo t440s which is a<br>
> cousin of the Yoga 2 Pro.<br>
><br>
> So that likely isn't the problem. Whether or not Secure Boot is necessary,<br>
> required, or preferred is a different question.<br>
><br>
> [1]<br>
> <a href="http://www.zdnet.com/linux-mint-17-hands-on-with-uefi-secure-boot-7000030092/" target="_blank">http://www.zdnet.com/linux-mint-17-hands-on-with-uefi-secure-boot-7000030092/</a><br>
> [2]<br>
> <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028388/two-ubuntu-linux-versions-can-now-work-with-secure-boot.html" target="_blank">http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028388/two-ubuntu-linux-versions-can-now-work-with-secure-boot.html</a><br>
> [3] <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secureboot" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secureboot</a><br>
<br>
Those solutions involve making sure you're using Microsoft-signed code<br>
to boot Linux. That's something that can easily go wrong, and we know<br>
that *something* is going wrong in the boot. Secure Boot may not be<br>
the culprit (we have no error messages), but it's a likely one, and<br>
it's an easy thing to try.<br>
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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:26:31 -0500<br>
From: FiL Farris <<a href="mailto:philipfarris@gmail.com">philipfarris@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga<br>
2 Pro<br>
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I would suggest checking the legacy option as well. I have run into some<br>
issues with M2 ssds especially pci-e variety lately.<br>
<br>
The only issue with this though is 8 IS booting.<br>
On Nov 12, 2014 10:57 AM, "Rob Funk" <<a href="mailto:rfunk@funknet.net">rfunk@funknet.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Eric Floehr wrote:<br>
> > This was likely true at one time, but I've personally successfully<br>
> > installed the most recent versions of Linux Mint[1], Ubuntu[2], and<br>
> > Fedora[3] with Secure Boot enabled. This is on a Lenovo t440s which is a<br>
> > cousin of the Yoga 2 Pro.<br>
> ><br>
> > So that likely isn't the problem. Whether or not Secure Boot is<br>
> necessary,<br>
> > required, or preferred is a different question.<br>
> ><br>
> > [1]<br>
> ><br>
> <a href="http://www.zdnet.com/linux-mint-17-hands-on-with-uefi-secure-boot-7000030092/" target="_blank">http://www.zdnet.com/linux-mint-17-hands-on-with-uefi-secure-boot-7000030092/</a><br>
> > [2]<br>
> ><br>
> <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028388/two-ubuntu-linux-versions-can-now-work-with-secure-boot.html" target="_blank">http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028388/two-ubuntu-linux-versions-can-now-work-with-secure-boot.html</a><br>
> > [3] <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secureboot" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secureboot</a><br>
><br>
> Those solutions involve making sure you're using Microsoft-signed code<br>
> to boot Linux. That's something that can easily go wrong, and we know<br>
> that *something* is going wrong in the boot. Secure Boot may not be<br>
> the culprit (we have no error messages), but it's a likely one, and<br>
> it's an easy thing to try.<br>
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