<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 15, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Rick Troth <<a href="mailto:rmt@casita.net" class="">rmt@casita.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/13/2016 05:49 PM, Rick Hornsby
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<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;" class="">Obviously,
a question about hackintosh isn't strictly a Linux query per-se
- but I put it to this group of smart and capable folks
nonetheless. I'm a huge fan of Linux as a server OS, but my
laptops/desktops are all OSX/macOS because I think macOS strikes
a better balance between UI/UX and the *NIX underpinnings I want
- as well as a much more massive library of desktop software
available.</div>
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I've been <u class="">thinking seriously about OS X</u> as the replacement
for my wife's OpenSUSE laptop. <br class="">
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Personally, I need (for some values of "need") a Darwin system as a
build and test platform. We have a shiny new liquid cooled Core i7
specifically intended for KVM hosting. My first attempts at
installing Darwin x86 801 failed. I'm keen to hear how things to
with your Hackintosh efforts. <br class="">
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I do not recommend virtualization for heavy media service. My
primary company Windoze system is 7 Pro on KVM (on the new host).
It's fine until some [expletive deleted] web page throws animation
at me. I avoid Firefox, doing that on a laptop instead. <br class="">
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And, yeah, <u class="">OS X is Unix under the covers</u>. </div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Close, it is BSD (or modeled after BSD since Apple chose to re-write it for their purposes of desktop/laptop/mobile uses.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="">(Used to have a
geniune NeXT as primary desktop when I worked in academia. Nice.) <br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>That would be useful since NeXT NextStep OS was purchased by Apple to make OS X. : )</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="">
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<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;" class="">I
have a 2010 MacPro (the tower, not the trashcan), and it's old
going on ancient. Over time, I've upgraded the video card,
memory, OS drive to SSD - and while it has been a sturdy,
reliable, and overall wonderful system, it's time to look at a
replacement. In the intervening years, Apple seems to have lost
even the illusion of love for their professional and desktop
customers. Specifically, the most recent MacPro last had a
hardware update when the trashcan model was first released - in
2013. At that time, the hardware was already around a year old.
Today, it still costs what it did when the 2013 was first
released: $3000-$4000 just for a base model. <br class="">
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ouch! <br class="">
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My friend and sometime mentor Glenn (y'all don't know him, unless
you happened to hear him speak at NFJS or other conferences) said
he's actually fond of current Apple desktop models. I'll ask him to
expand on that. (I was asking him about laptops. See above.) <br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>They are very nice. If you are looking at pricing, consider the MacMini: <a href="http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-mini" class="">http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-mini</a><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="">
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Have you thought about using a laptop with external monitor,
keyboard, mouse? <br class="">
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Does OS X support any kind of <u class="">remote access</u>? </div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Yes. <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18140" class="">https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18140</a></div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="">(I've used VNC
for years. I find MS RDP to be better in that it carries audio and
allows screen resizing. What does OS X do?) Physical display and
input in one place talking to a beefy box in the basement might be
very functional. <br class="">
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<blockquote cite="mid:CAP--A0kTeyv0xrFtXK65e+GDceW=cH1BifnEnQrXydtzo8ednQ@mail.gmail.com" type="cite" class="">As I look for solutions, one of my non-negoitables is
that I'm not going to back to Windows. Linux desktop is also not
an option, if nothing else because I run professional photography
software like Lightroom and Photoshop. So, I'm looking at building
a hackintosh. I don't want to, knowing that the rock solid
stability I've come to enjoy out of my Apple hardware (yes, I
know, running the Apple OS) will be out the window (no pun
intended). I'm looking to build something roughly comparable (in
today's generation of hardware) to a mid-to-high end range MacPro.</blockquote>
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Similar story here: for most of my work, Linux is fine (as would be
*BSD or perhaps even Solaris). But the demands of media service are
out of control. (Conspiracy theorists might suggest that Disney is
trying to kill Linux and Unix for desktop/laptop use.) I constantly
have to "allow now" Flash player, and shudder occasionally. <br class="">
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But Apple "just works" in the consumer context. <br class=""></div></div></blockquote><br class="">Correct. : )</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="">
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<div id="bloop_sign_1479075498010196992" class="bloop_sign">I've
briefly looked at some guides and watched a few YT videos on the
topic of hackintoshes. Anyone here have first-hand experience
they'd be willing to share? Buying parts from
newegg/tigerdirect/amazon/microcenter and building my own box is
not an issue. In a way as I've been thinking about this project,
I've looked forward to doing that again. It's been a while. But
specifically to the subject of a hackintosh, any
tips/tricks/pitfalls to watch out for? Anyone write up any of
their own blog posts or guides on the subject?</div>
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Wish I could offer suggestions for hardware. Maybe just cheer from
the sidelines while you run that race. <br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><a href="http://www.hackintosh.com/" class="">http://www.hackintosh.com/</a></div><div><a href="https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/unibeast-install-macos-sierra-on-any-supported-intel-based-pc.200564/" class="">https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/unibeast-install-macos-sierra-on-any-supported-intel-based-pc.200564/</a></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="">
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If you use Homebrew much, I'd like to chat off-list. (Or on-list if
others are interested.) Am trying to bone-up a similar tool from an
independent linage. Lots to be learned from Homebrew and OS X. <br class=""></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div>Don</div><br class=""></body></html>