[colug-432] virtualization, clouds, and infrastructure

Scott McCarty scott.mccarty at gmail.com
Fri Dec 17 08:33:32 EST 2010

We have the same problem. I am taking a look at open nebula on kvm with
libcloud/overmind for our deployments. I want servers that ARE persistent
for similar needs, i just want to be able to fire up new ones in 30 seconds
(that is about the length of time in Rackspace). If you find something else,
let us know if you would.

Best Regards
Scott M

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Scott Merrill <skippy at skippy.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Tom Hanlon <tom at functionalmedia.com>
> wrote:
> > I personally do not have much experience with either of these projects
> but I think they deserve mentioning in this thread because..
> > A: they are open source
> > B: I think they both partially aim to solve some of these issues.
> >
> > Eucalyptus:
> >
> > Tools to manage your private cloud, looks like it aims to allow you to
> replicate your experience with what amazon Web Services provides but across
> your machines.
> > I did not dive deep enough to see if it provides HA for instances of
> VM's.
> >
> > The project is/was somehow tied to ubuntu.. but I am not sure of the
> connection. Does Ubuntu provide a competing product to the redhat tools in
> this space ?
> I did a test installation of Eucalyptus on a couple of KVM guests.
> It's a smooth installation process, and looks pretty good, if you want
> to roll your own version of Amazon EC2.
> I do not want to roll my own version of EC2. I do not want to
> dynamically build and destroy essentially ephemeral servers for my
> environment. I'm not looking for IaaS (Infrastructure as a Service),
> but rather _real_ infrastructure.
> Moreover, as I read the various topologies one can use with
> Eucalyptus, it looks like each includes several single points of
> failure:
>   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Topologies
> The storage server (running the "walrus" component) implements the S3
> get/put commands, but there's no real examples of how to scale that
> out across multiple systems for redundancy. Maybe I simply missed that
> part, and would appreciate a pointer in the right direction if that's
> the case.
> But, as I said in a previous message, we don't want (or need) to run
> our own "cloud". We need a dependable, real infrastructure upon which
> we can deploy a known quantity of specific-purpose servers, accounting
> for growth over time. We're not building up and tearing down ad-hoc
> compute nodes.
> > Openstack:
> >
> > Similar as far as I can tell,
> Haven't looked at this yet, but I will. Thanks.
> Cheers,
> Scott
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