[colug-432] CentOS

Bill Baker bill_chris at earthlink.net
Sun Dec 18 18:46:12 EST 2011

I'm with you.  If they're going to give us the option of a new
interface, at least make accessing the old interface easy.  Don't force
the new interface on us.  I think even the people who like Unity can
probably agree on that.

On 12/18/2011 03:29 PM, Steve VanSlyck wrote:
> On behalf of all old people, and those who ever had to lose 5 minutes
> reinstalling DOS -  ;)  - I want to say I'm tired of haviing to relearn
> how to use a computer every 5 years. Leave the damn desktop alone. Unity
> sux.
> On 12/18/2011 15.24, Scott Merrill wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Joshua Kramer <joskra42.list at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> And now for the contrary point of view...
>> That didn't seem particularly contrary!
>> I personally don't understand the vitriol. I don't mind using Unity on
>> Ubuntu or GNOME 3 on Fedora 16. Yes, they're both different than what
>> came before, but neither actively retards usefulness with my
>> computers.
>> I can launch a browser, and spawn multiple terminal sessions easily
>> enough using either current desktop.
>> Unity makes using some things a little different, with its global menu
>> bar, but this isn't so burdensome an issue as to have me looking for
>> alternatives. Having spoken to a number of folks at Canonical, I
>> remain hopeful that Unity will mature into a very useful interface
>> that works on multiple classes of devices. There is a strong vision
>> for where Unity needs to go within Canonical, but as they say: you
>> can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.
>> http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/31/ubuntu-developer-summit-kicks-off-mark-shuttleworth-shares-plans-for-ubuntu-12-04-and-beyond/
>> Long-time users often wail and gnash their teeth when things change.
>> Witness the ever-changing audio subsystems, or the X -> x.org
>> transition, or other similar sea changes in the history of Linux. Does
>> anyone today really miss X11, or Open Sound System, despite how much
>> angst the transition to x.org or ALSA might have caused at the time?
>> The needs of a Linux desktop for someone like Russ are drastically
>> different from the needs of a user like Rick's daughter. The "more
>> than one way to do it" mentality that has served the techie-oriented
>> Linux community to date is what complicates and hinders wider Linux
>> desktop adoption. Everyone thinks their way is the One True Way, and
>> everyone else thinks that way sucks.
>> Apple was able to set the standard for its users early with OSX, and
>> continues to decide what's best for their users in many way. Most
>> Apple users find some form of peace with these decisions being made
>> for them, or at the least find ways to be productive within the limits
>> imposed by Apple's decisions. I can be equally productive with an OSX
>> system as with most any Linux system, since the POSIX tools on which I
>> rely are all at hand.
>> How I launch a terminal isn't terribly important...
>> Cheers,
>> Scott
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