[colug-432] Streaming

[Angelo McComis]

This almost seems to raise a consumer rights question:  if you send
something to my machine, do I have the right to save it to retrieve it
later?  Do I have the right to decode and leave the content viewable
later? At what point do you draw the line here?

We DVR broadcast and cable content. Why do Internet types try to make
online content so much more difficult to do the equivalent with?

- Angelo

On Jan 9, 2011, at 5:56 PM, William Yang <wyang at gcfn.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 18:25 -0500, Matt Meinwald wrote:
>> My guess is it is not on the hard drive at all.  I have seen flash store regular
>> videos in /tmp.  In more recent versions they seem to be deleting this file
>> immediately after creating it, but it is still accessible somewhere in
>> /proc/<PID>/fd/.
>
> That's a secure coding technique to prevent data leakage.
>
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>> I attempted to use the same strategy for a streamed video, but the only related
>> file in there is a socket connection to port 1935, apparently the port for RTMP
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Messaging_Protocol).  If you are really
>> serious about downloading these streams, it seems you would need to find the url
>> of the stream and a program that can handle RTMP (some can be found in the link
>> I provided).
>>
>> On 01/08/2011 06:10 PM, jep200404 at columbus.rr.com wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You wrote:
>>>
>>>> I streamed ACL 1/1/11 (Cheap Trick) this week at the Library. It does
>>>> not show up in tmp. Any idea where they hide it?
>>>
>>> Nope. I do not even know if it is on your hard drive.
>>>
>>>> Does streaming work different than downloading a You Tube video?
>>>
>>> I do not know.
>>>
>>>> Where does Austin City Limits hide their stream in my computer?
>>>
>>> Flash considers users to be the scum of the earth.
>>> I expect that PBS (not Austin City Limits) has decided
>>> to make saving the stream difficult. Search for flash in
>>> add-ons for Mozilla/IceWeasel. Try the different downloaders.
>>>
>>> Here's something to try.
>>>
>>> Before going to the web site for the video, execute:
>>>
>>>   man find
>>>   find / >before.files
>>>
>>> As you are watching the video, execute:
>>>
>>>   find / >while.files
>>>
>>> The compare them:
>>>
>>>   man diff
>>>   diff before.files while.files | less
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
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