[colug-432] June COLUG Meeting Announcement

Steve VanSlyck s.vanslyck at spamcop.net
Tue Jun 26 12:12:25 EDT 2012


Wot's bikeshedding?

I'd go w MediaWiki, but I'm not an important voice in this decision.

R P Herrold <herrold at owlriver.com> wrote:

>Jim asked that I post the meeting anouncement at the 
>http://www.colug.net/ placeholder, which I have
>
>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, jep200404 at columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>
>The hard drive with the former site has two sick partitions 
>damaged by the over-eager efforts at the remote hosting site 
>last month ;(  I suspect head crashes from power cycling
>
>I possess off-site rsynced backups of that drive, and that 
>webbish content did not change quickly, so I should have most 
>of it except perhaps the most recent meeting posting for 
>April, (which we never archived anyway)
>
>The mailing list content has on another server, for the last 
>couple years, anwyay, and is back-uped up to current, so no 
>hassle there.  There is good stuff under the old layout that I 
>am used to accessing (old COLUG presentations), LUG lists, and 
>I'd like it accessible again.  Most of the rest was 
>either slow-changing boilerplate (useful) or 'fluff'.  I had 
>some 'tricks' in there so the site seemed to be actively 
>curated for Google's spiders
>
>>From a 'needs analysis' POV, that describes what I'd like to 
>get up again [excepting the fluff ;) ]
>
>I've been auditioning CMS's of a wiki form, that will take a 
>CSS 'styling' and so forth, and am underwhelmed
>
>There is a bewildering variety of 'bike-shedding' and 
>wheel-reinvention happening in this space:
>
>[herrold at centos-5 ~]$ srcfind wiki | rev | awk -F"/" {'print \
> 	$1'}| cut -d "-" -f 3- | rev | sort | uniq
>dokuwiki
>dokuwiki-plugin-bureaucracy
>drupal7-mediawiki_api
>ikiwiki
>mediawiki
>mediawiki114
>mediawiki115
>mediawiki116
>mediawiki-CategoryTree
>mediawiki-Cite
>mediawiki-HNP
>mediawiki-HTTP302Found
>mediawiki-imagemap
>mediawiki-InputBox
>mediawiki-LdapAccount
>mediawiki-openid
>mediawiki-ParserFunctions
>mediawiki-Renameuser
>mediawiki-rss
>mediawiki-semantic
>mediawiki-SpecialInterwiki
>mediawiki-StubManager
>mediawiki-validator
>mediawiki-wikicalendar
>perl-CGI-Kwiki
>perl-Kwiki
>perl-Kwiki-Archive-Rcs
>perl-Kwiki-Attachments
>perl-Kwiki-Diff
>perl-Kwiki-Diff-Mutual
>perl-Kwiki-ModPerl
>perl-Kwiki-NewPage
>perl-Kwiki-Raw
>perl-Kwiki-RecentChanges
>perl-Kwiki-Revisions
>perl-Kwiki-Search
>perl-Kwiki-TableOfContents-Print
>perl-Kwiki-UserName
>perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences
>perl-Kwiki-Users-Remote
>perl-Text-KwikiFormatish
>perl-Text-MediawikiFormat
>perl-Wiki-Toolkit-Formatter-Mediawiki
>python-lyricwiki
>python-simplemediawiki
>python-wikimarkup
>
>with dokuwiki and mediawiki seeming to be ones that are 
>maintained credibly (docuwiki is pretty minimal; mediawiki is 
>what the Wikipedia and Fedora folks use)
>
> 	http://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki
> 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
>
>but they are so ugly even so
>
>Security seems to be addressed in each:
> 	http://www.dokuwiki.org/security
> 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security
>
>I sure wish each had a specific -security-announce mailing 
>list, though, so I could track this better
>
>I am very distrustful of more formal CMS' such as Joomla and 
>Drupal, as I have seen their code, and repeated exploits 
>there.  I do not want to be in 'site maintenance mode' for 
>COLUG at all.  The old hand-build CMS that Paul and I cobbled 
>together has worked well over the years from a security 
>stqandpoing, but not so well for delegation of authoring. 
>CentOS has had pretty good luck with trusted authors and 
>MoinMoin
> 	http://moinmo.in/
>
>but it does not theme well
>
>but it requires me watching all posts diff's to keep spam out 
>even so.  Don't even get me started on de-spamming the 
>more 'open' forums
>
>What 'needs' do others feel, and what low overhead paths to 
>meeting such do others suggest.  Is this trip even necessary 
>in this post-modern LUG age?
>
>-- Russ herrold
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