[colug-432] Email slower than snail mail.

Matt Meinwald meinwald.1 at osu.edu
Sun May 6 09:33:44 EDT 2012


There is no future-dating going on here. Some of the headers are in UTC and some
in PDT. From these headers it shows the message going from Yahoo to Google from
13:34-13:35 UTC (6:34-6:35 PDT or 9:34-9:35 EDT). If it was not received until
23:00 EDT, it indicates there was an issue on the Gmail side, not the Yahoo one.
Perhaps spam graylisting?

On 05/06/2012 08:05 AM, William Yang wrote:
> The gmail-side headers seem consistent and there is no Date: header in what
> you forwarded.  These two facts suggest to me that something was wrong on
> the sending side.  The Yahoo-side headers are dated in the future from the
> final (topmost) received header.  This strongly suggests that -- at a
> minimum -- someone's clock was really wrong.  All of this together really
> suggests to me that the sending side is confused and buggy in some way.
> 
> 
> On 05/05/2012 02:41 PM, Thomas W. cranston wrote:
>> On 05/04/2012 11:43 PM, Angelo McComis wrote:
>>> You could post the headers of the message in question. Cleanse the personal
>>> portion of the headers/content if you like.
>>>
>>> Within that, you should be able to find the time the user sent it, then when
>>> it was received by each subsequent host along the delivery path. It could
>>> have gotten stuck somewhere, or any number of issues.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: colug-432-bounces at colug.net [mailto:colug-432-bounces at colug.net] On
>>> Behalf Of Thomas W. cranston
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:32 AM
>>> To: Central OH Linux User Group - 432xx
>>> Subject: [colug-432] Email slower than snail mail.
>>>
>>> Friday, May 04 2012 11:12:14 PM I just logged in to my ISP and after
>>> downloading my Gmail I got an email dated May 04 2012 8:34AM.
>>>
>>> I received about 20 emails between 8:34 AM and 3:48 PM. They came in in a
>>> timely manner.
>>>
>>> Sometimes I get emails that are days and even a week or more late.
>>>
>>> I am wondering if this is a Gmail problem, and if anybody else has this
>>> happening? Could it be a problem w/ my ISP?
>>>
>>> I am using Thunderbird. I get similar results using Gmail in my browser.
>>> (Firefox)
>>>
>>> Tom
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>> Hi
>>
>> Headers:
>>
>>  From - Fri May  4 08:41:29 2012
>> X-Account-Key: account2
>> X-UIDL: GmailId137180fa9b40e90a
>> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
>> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
>> X-Mozilla-Keys: 
>>
>> Delivered-To: thomas.w.cranston at gmail.com
>> Received: by 10.182.154.35 with SMTP id vl3csp10733obb;
>>          Fri, 4 May 2012 06:35:08 -0700 (PDT)
>> Received: by 10.68.225.170 with SMTP id rl10mr18852160pbc.76.1336138508450;
>>          Fri, 04 May 2012 06:35:08 -0700 (PDT)
>> Return-Path: 
>> <sentto-3504897-9294-1336138502-thomas.w.cranston=gmail.com at returns.groups.yahoo.com>
>> Received: from ng16-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com 
>> (ng16-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com. [98.136.219.203])
>>          by mx.google.com with SMTP id 
>> hz10si722977pbc.103.2012.05.04.06.35.07;
>>          Fri, 04 May 2012 06:35:08 -0700 (PDT)
>> Received-SPF: pass (google.com: manual fallback record for domain of 
>> sentto-3504897-9294-1336138502-thomas.w.cranston=gmail.com at returns.groups.yahoo.com 
>> designates 98.136.219.203 as permitted sender) client-ip=98.136.219.203;
>> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: manual 
>> fallback record for domain of 
>> sentto-3504897-9294-1336138502-thomas.w.cranston=gmail.com at returns.groups.yahoo.com 
>> designates 98.136.219.203 as permitted sender) 
>> smtp.mail=sentto-3504897-9294-1336138502-thomas.w.cranston=gmail.com at returns.groups.yahoo.com; 
>> dkim=pass header.i=@yahoogroups.com
>> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; 
>> s=lima; t=1336138507; bh=ig8K2VJf1VqNAUGOy72hiZElWwZ9+q6qDuzrR7iizHw=; 
>> h=Received:Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:To:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:From:X-Yahoo-Profile:Sender:MIME-Version:Mailing-List:Delivered-To:List-Id:Precedence:List-Unsubscribe:Date:Subject:Reply-To:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type; 
>> b=q7fgdwOjvn+5ly6pxmkqfelRLG4B2kj3O7AeSsWtEYyWLjZSq8FOiHwxnIalMHLjSpQC/j+kZhDZ02YQUC77HtLbKiy7oECefiK2Fx15bu90MRu4UZRXqeLR5nhEYAaE
>> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com;
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>> Received: from [98.137.0.87] by ng16.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with 
>> NNFMP; 04 May 2012 13:35:07 -0000
>> Received: from [98.137.35.158] by tg7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with 
>> NNFMP; 04 May 2012 13:35:07 -0000
>> X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 3504897-m9294
>> X-Sender: d_pridge at yahoo.com
>> X-Apparently-To: gwlug at yahoogroups.com
>> X-Received: (qmail 43495 invoked from network); 4 May 2012 13:35:00 -0000
>> X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46)
>>    by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 May 2012 13:35:00 -0000
>> X-Received: from unknown (HELO nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) 
>> (98.139.212.169)
>>    by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 May 2012 13:34:59 -0000
>> X-Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with 
>> NNFMP; 04 May 2012 13:34:59 -0000
>> X-Received: from [98.139.212.247] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with 
>> NNFMP; 04 May 2012 13:34:59 -0000
>> X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1056.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 
>> 04 May 2012 13:34:59 -0000
>> X-Received: (qmail 10939 invoked by uid 60001); 4 May 2012 13:34:59 -0000
>> X-YMail-OSG: 3j6VajMVM1mUdth4Fd8Bdgm1RrNocMgRRtTfbRxbdzRNIhd
>>   W0t_DPcjlfrGsTPq1SxS3.fA7NkO_zMx.TLo3DiUVS7ttQyusAv1pTbifxap
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>>   ofEJUcXpwjEFydKjpEtoQEg5ic8d6yZZFCQ--
>> X-Received: from [108.178.118.101] by web162805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via 
>> HTTP; Fri, 04 May 2012 06:34:59 PDT
>> X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979
>> Message-ID: <1336138499.10773.YahooMailClassic at web162805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
>> To: GWLUG at yahoogroups.com
>> X-Originating-IP: 98.139.212.169
>> X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0
>> From: dan pridgeon <d_pridge at yahoo.com>
>> X-Yahoo-Profile: d_pridge
>> Sender: GWLUG at yahoogroups.com
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Mailing-List: list GWLUG at yahoogroups.com; contact 
>> GWLUG-owner at yahoogroups.com
>> Delivered-To: mailing list GWLUG at yahoogroups.com
>> List-Id: <GWLUG.yahoogroups.com>
>> Precedence: bulk
>>
>> Tom
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> 
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