[colug-432] Email slower than snail mail.

William Yang wyang at gcfn.net
Wed May 9 06:14:01 EDT 2012


On 05/06/2012 09:33 AM, Matt Meinwald wrote:
> There is no future-dating going on here. Some of the headers are in UTC and some
> in PDT. From these headers it shows the message going from Yahoo to Google from
> 13:34-13:35 UTly C (6:34-6:35 PDT or 9:34-9:35 EDT). If it was not received until
> 23:00 EDT, it indicates there was an issue on the Gmail side, not the Yahoo one.
> Perhaps spam graylisting?
>
> On 05/06/2012 08:05 AM, William Yang wrote:
>> The gmail-side headers seem consistent and there is no Date: header in what
>> you forwarded.  These two facts suggest to me that something was wrong on
>> the sending side.  The Yahoo-side headers are dated in the future from the
>> final (topmost) received header.  This strongly suggests that -- at a
>> minimum -- someone's clock was really wrong.  All of this together really
>> suggests to me that the sending side is confused and buggy in some way.


As yLook carefully at the date/time stamps.  (My consulting practice works
me globally, and deal with timezone issues like this all the time).











>>
>>
>> On 05/05/2012 02:41 PM, Thomas W. cranston wrote:
>>> On 05/04/2012 11:43 PM, Angelo McComis wrote:
>>>> You could post the headers of the message in question. Cleanse the personal
>>>> portion of the headers/content if you like.
>>>>
>>>> Within that, you should be able to find the time the user sent it, then when
>>>> it was received by each subsequent host along the delivery path. It could
>>>> have gotten stuck somewhere, or any number of issues.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: colug-432-bounces at colug.net [mailto:colug-432-bounces at colug.net] On
>>>> Behalf Of Thomas W. cranston
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:32 AM
>>>> To: Central OH Linux User Group - 432xx
>>>> Subject: [colug-432] Email slower than snail mail.
>>>>
>>>> Friday, May 04 2012 11:12:14 PM I just logged in to my ISP and after
>>>> downloading my Gmail I got an email dated May 04 2012 8:34AM.
>>>>
>>>> I received about 20 emails between 8:34 AM and 3:48 PM. They came in in a
>>>> timely manner.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes I get emails that are days and even a week or more late.
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering if this is a Gmail problem, and if anybody else has this
>>>> happening? Could it be a problem w/ my ISP?
>>>>
>>>> I am using Thunderbird. I get similar results using Gmail in my browser.
>>>> (Firefox)
>>>>
>>>> Tom
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>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Headers:
>>>
>>>  From - Fri May  4 08:41:29 2012
>>> X-Account-Key: account2
>>> X-UIDL: GmailId137180fa9b40e90a
>>> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
>>> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
>>> X-Mozilla-Keys: 
>>>
>>> Delivered-To: thomas.w.cranston at gmail.com
>>> Received: by 10.182.154.35 with SMTP id vl3csp10733obb;
>>>          Fri, 4 May 2012 06:35:08 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Received: by 10.68.225.170 with SMTP id rl10mr18852160pbc.76.1336138508450;
>>>          Fri, 04 May 2012 06:35:08 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Return-Path: 
>>> <sentto-3504897-9294-1336138502-thomas.w.cranston=gmail.com at returns.groups.yahoo.com>
>>> Received: from ng16-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com 
>>> (ng16-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com. [98.136.219.203])
>>>          by mx.google.com with SMTP id 
>>> hz10si722977pbc.103.2012.05.04.06.35.07;
>>>          Fri, 04 May 2012 06:35:08 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Received-SPF: pass (google.com: manual fallback record for domain of 
>>> sentto-3504897-9294-1336138502-thomas.w.cranston=gmail.com at returns.groups.yahoo.com 
>>> designates 98.136.219.203 as permitted sender) client-ip=98.136.219.203;
>>> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: manual 
>>> fallback record for domain of 
>>> sentto-3504897-9294-1336138502-thomas.w.cranston=gmail.com at returns.groups.yahoo.com 
>>> designates 98.136.219.203 as permitted sender) 
>>> smtp.mail=sentto-3504897-9294-1336138502-thomas.w.cranston=gmail.com at returns.groups.yahoo.com; 
>>> dkim=pass header.i=@yahoogroups.com
>>> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; 
>>> s=lima; t=1336138507; bh=ig8K2VJf1VqNAUGOy72hiZElWwZ9+q6qDuzrR7iizHw=; 
>>> h=Received:Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:To:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:From:X-Yahoo-Profile:Sender:MIME-Version:Mailing-List:Delivered-To:List-Id:Precedence:List-Unsubscribe:Date:Subject:Reply-To:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type; 
>>> b=q7fgdwOjvn+5ly6pxmkqfelRLG4B2kj3O7AeSsWtEYyWLjZSq8FOiHwxnIalMHLjSpQC/j+kZhDZ02YQUC77HtLbKiy7oECefiK2Fx15bu90MRu4UZRXqeLR5nhEYAaE
>>> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com;
>>> 	b=h6rhY8i0jHDMBdliMQuRjLpFGIlajt+ZEhrYgoNySSPgIcexiXHAMsBVcjfOfKUDebB4flPnZw/1wGCyZ1fpJn9v3V/sRyPHYT0034Y3kK/H7nEJs+L2ng2UMg7FTHPg;
>>> Received: from [98.137.0.87] by ng16.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with 
>>> NNFMP; 04 May 2012 13:35:07 -0000
>>> Received: from [98.137.35.158] by tg7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with 
>>> NNFMP; 04 May 2012 13:35:07 -0000
>>> X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 3504897-m9294
>>> X-Sender: d_pridge at yahoo.com
>>> X-Apparently-To: gwlug at yahoogroups.com
>>> X-Received: (qmail 43495 invoked from network); 4 May 2012 13:35:00 -0000
>>> X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46)
>>>    by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 May 2012 13:35:00 -0000
>>> X-Received: from unknown (HELO nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) 
>>> (98.139.212.169)
>>>    by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 May 2012 13:34:59 -0000
>>> X-Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with 
>>> NNFMP; 04 May 2012 13:34:59 -0000
>>> X-Received: from [98.139.212.247] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with 
>>> NNFMP; 04 May 2012 13:34:59 -0000
>>> X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1056.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 
>>> 04 May 2012 13:34:59 -0000
>>> X-Received: (qmail 10939 invoked by uid 60001); 4 May 2012 13:34:59 -0000
>>> X-YMail-OSG: 3j6VajMVM1mUdth4Fd8Bdgm1RrNocMgRRtTfbRxbdzRNIhd
>>>   W0t_DPcjlfrGsTPq1SxS3.fA7NkO_zMx.TLo3DiUVS7ttQyusAv1pTbifxap
>>>   Z_.He1waGJtGkMZsF51OTIcq4kY8YeeaPOxbm4r_gY855tvTGvYyPWK6FE3q
>>>   ZCfns9kJ7t6RUMqmA3uVs7DeZuqUGbnpW._lFupTAji2jiUuFRKAVLBgkRIt
>>>   .G0NlUh4StIXkWnotEJIJ1aUPad6re3BV4j7gncXgKPOHS.AYxqGWjH3OmSw
>>>   YyahGStt4MMwc.UnKXag4YLnb953HT0o5pAzNXMIZPEFp6slf3vYTI8lm9t6
>>>   blW_X4T15_FA_yucJJt9Vl3dEdhtIWLPZIqnpf9i8Ooq806TTiuT6r31yMUU
>>>   eQ1NAxtIVUy9p9fxUgD5C_nNgdjLDNV2x1dpFcsFPPkwOZZlze.YClXpBH1P
>>>   50CEpraRXJW6gxfxLaWdMkbmb7OUpl.O.4mnA.WjGQOHlFrQO8G5yvQF6wXs
>>>   E.aKFbWugLFl8VXrKA0rf1AGF0zed1BDfih2M94b7iCb63Ypmt10zJTd2BLA
>>>   bIurCZcCHZmXbik5j9lWq7efd5o5bb24sSWSNhFRV7p9MmQNyDExwnmY9GAy
>>>   oovAmOms935dQ3K2jHTX3UNVKpLM2OrGkESkS9KkENCUMnPF0Nfh9Vs6fh_V
>>>   ofEJUcXpwjEFydKjpEtoQEg5ic8d6yZZFCQ--
>>> X-Received: from [108.178.118.101] by web162805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via 
>>> HTTP; Fri, 04 May 2012 06:34:59 PDT
>>> X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979
>>> Message-ID: <1336138499.10773.YahooMailClassic at web162805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
>>> To: GWLUG at yahoogroups.com
>>> X-Originating-IP: 98.139.212.169
>>> X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0
>>> From: dan pridgeon <d_pridge at yahoo.com>
>>> X-Yahoo-Profile: d_pridge
>>> Sender: GWLUG at yahoogroups.com
>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>> Mailing-List: list GWLUG at yahoogroups.com; contact 
>>> GWLUG-owner at yahoogroups.com
>>> Delivered-To: mailing list GWLUG at yahoogroups.com
>>> List-Id: <GWLUG.yahoogroups.com>
>>> Precedence: bulk
>>>
>>> Tom
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