[colug-432] Hash and salt, where does the salt go ?

Tom Hanlon tom at functionalmedia.com
Mon Jan 6 17:08:35 EST 2014


Colug,

Just catching up on MD5 SHA1 and associated collision issues.

Along the way I came across the wikipedia article on salt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_%28cryptography%29

I thought I understood the add salt and then hash process.

But then I thought again, it has been a long time since I had to talk about
Bob alice and Ted trying to share secrets. So I need a refresher.

If Alice has a password after her cat, fluffy.

And we go to store that password we would hash it.

Before we hash it we add some salt ( now I am getting hungry for some
salted hash)

So fluffy = > salt+fluffy =>hash => password file

Then when alice goes to login she types

fluffy => we add salt => salt+fluffy => hash

if hash == password file then she can access her bank account, if not she
has to tall use her Mom's maiden name and her high school mascot.

So the question I have is..
The article describes the salt as randomly generated when the password is
created.

Where do we store it ?

Obviously her newly generated Salt has to be kept on the authenticator's
tool in some fashion.

Did I just ask a question or propose a meeting topic ? Or both ?

Anyhow..

where is the salt ??

** note that although I added some humor (I hope) here and there, I am
serious. Where is the salt lookup table stored ?

--
Tom
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