[colug-432] colug-432 Digest, Vol 63, Issue 5
Dennis Reeder
reeder1968 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 12 21:38:31 EST 2014
Thanks for the info, encouragement and veiled threat to destroy my Yoga.
If I can drag myself outta bed early tomorrow morning I may head down to
Stauf's, kick start my brain with Yirgecheffe and see if I can find some
help.
Denny
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> 1. Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro
> (Dennis Reeder)
> 2. Re: Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro
> (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com)
> 3. Re: Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro (Rob Funk)
> 4. Re: Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro
> (Eric Floehr)
> 5. Re: Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro (Rob Funk)
> 6. Re: Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2 Pro
> (FiL Farris)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:30:53 -0500
> From: Dennis Reeder <reeder1968 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga 2
> Pro
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> I have been struggling, both desperately and unsuccessfully, to install
> Mint on a relatively new Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro. I have installed a new mSata
> ssd into the laptop. I have partitioned it correctly. Windows 8.1 is
> working perfeclty from one of the partitions. A new fresh version of Mint
> is installed in the other partition. However I cannot get it to boot into
> Mint.
>
> I believe that I am very close to having the project done....yet I still
> cannot get the machine to boot into the Linux OS. Need GRUB bootloader,
> need to disable something? Arggghhhh.
>
> A little background here. I am a novice nooby struggling to learn while I
> am doing it. I am enjoying the trip but it has now gotten to the point of
> frustration and the fun factor is rapidly diminishing. Particularly since
> I am not able to use the Lenovo Yoga and/or learn more about Mint.
>
> I am a Mac OS user and have been since .... well the beginning back in
> '84. I am also fairly competent, at least to some degree, with Android.
> I am not very fluent in Windows at all. The goal is to keep 8.1 on the
> Yoga jsut in case I need it for something down the road (or to migrate to
> Windows 10 or whatever). I would like to become proficient enough in
> Ubuntu/Mint to wean myself off of OS X.
>
> I installed Mint (and Ubuntu) on an Asus laptop about two months ago and
> sampled each. Decided I liked Mint. But it was the sole OS on the
> machine....no Windows. So booting into another OS was not part of the
> equation. And that apparently made things a helluva lot easier during the
> install.
>
> As I mentioned I think (almost absolutely positive) that I have Mint
> correctly installed. It is there. But the problem lies in the boot. I
> think I have done most of the hard (ie labor intensive if I can even use
> that term) work already. And what remains to be done should be (fingers
> crossed) pretty simple.
>
> Any suggestions? Recommendations. Anyone willing to meet me at a
> coffeehouse, restaurant etc to help nail this down? I would be more than
> wiling to buy coffee, a sandwich, a Lamborghini Aventador....only kidding
> on the Lambo.
>
> TIA
>
> Denny
>
> Denny
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> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:12:28 -0500
> From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com
> Subject: Re: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga
> 2 Pro
> To: Central OH Linux User Group - 432xx <colug-432 at colug.net>
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> On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:30:53 -0500, Dennis Reeder <reeder1968 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have been struggling, both desperately and unsuccessfully, to install
> > Mint on a relatively new Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro.
>
> > Windows 8.1 is
> > working perfeclty from one of the partitions. A new fresh version of
> Mint
> > is installed in the other partition. However I cannot get it to boot
> into
> > Mint.
>
> > Any suggestions? Recommendations. Anyone willing to meet me at a
> > coffeehouse, restaurant etc to help nail this down?
>
> colug.net often says something like:
>
> As always, feel free to bring with you any ailing or
> problematic systems for expert diagnosis (or destruction).
>
> but it doesn't say when the next meeting will be.
>
> I have heard that there's an informal gathering of software
> types who appear at Stauf's Coffee Roasters 1277 Grandview
> Avenue early (6am? 7am?) on Thursday mornings. Look for geeks
> with laptops? Other software types might hang out there often
> between 8am and 9am.
>
> Linux types are amongst those who show up at the Python dojos.
> See cohpy.org.
>
> I do not know the solution to your problem. I wonder if
> secure boot is involved. Search the web for various
> combinations of linux, secure, boot, windows, and matthew garrett.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2aq5M3Q76U
>
> http://www.itworld.com/article/2737487/it-management/microsoft-washes-its-hands-of-uefi-linux-mess.html
>
> http://www.crn.com.au/News/274817,windows-8-wont-kill-linux-says-microsoft.aspx
> http://www.knowwindows.com/view/387650-secure-boot-not-compatible.html
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:16:16 -0500
> From: Rob Funk <rfunk at funknet.net>
> Subject: Re: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga
> 2 Pro
> To: Central OH Linux User Group - 432xx <colug-432 at colug.net>
> Message-ID: <20141112151616.GA17112 at funknet.net>
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> Dennis Reeder wrote:
> > I have been struggling, both desperately and unsuccessfully, to install
> > Mint on a relatively new Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro. I have installed a new mSata
> > ssd into the laptop. I have partitioned it correctly. Windows 8.1 is
> > working perfeclty from one of the partitions. A new fresh version of
> Mint
> > is installed in the other partition. However I cannot get it to boot
> into
> > Mint.
> >
> > I believe that I am very close to having the project done....yet I still
> > cannot get the machine to boot into the Linux OS. Need GRUB bootloader,
> > need to disable something? Arggghhhh.
>
> I've only read about setting up Linux on these newfangled UEFI
> machines, but the first thing to try would be to configure the BIOS
> (or whatever they call it now) to disable Secure Boot.
>
> If you still can't get it to work after that, maybe switch it to
> Legacy Mode, though I'm not sure how Windows will like that.
>
> > As I mentioned I think (almost absolutely positive) that I have Mint
> > correctly installed. It is there. But the problem lies in the boot. I
> > think I have done most of the hard (ie labor intensive if I can even use
> > that term) work already. And what remains to be done should be (fingers
> > crossed) pretty simple.
>
> You didn't mention what error messages you get, or what happens when
> you try to boot Linux.
>
> By the way, the best thing I've found about running Linux on the Yoga
> 2 Pro is about Arch Linux, but still might be useful:
> http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=3270
>
> I've been eyeing the Yoga 2 Pro for a while (and was really
> disappointed that Lenovo mangled the keyboard on its successor), so
> I'm hoping you can get things working.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:31:39 -0500
> From: Eric Floehr <eric at intellovations.com>
> Subject: Re: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga
> 2 Pro
> To: Central OH Linux User Group - 432xx <colug-432 at colug.net>
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> This was likely true at one time, but I've personally successfully
> installed the most recent versions of Linux Mint[1], Ubuntu[2], and
> Fedora[3] with Secure Boot enabled. This is on a Lenovo t440s which is a
> cousin of the Yoga 2 Pro.
>
> So that likely isn't the problem. Whether or not Secure Boot is necessary,
> required, or preferred is a different question.
>
> [1]
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/linux-mint-17-hands-on-with-uefi-secure-boot-7000030092/
> [2]
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028388/two-ubuntu-linux-versions-can-now-work-with-secure-boot.html
> [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secureboot
>
>
>
> > I've only read about setting up Linux on these newfangled UEFI
> > machines, but the first thing to try would be to configure the BIOS
> > (or whatever they call it now) to disable Secure Boot.
> >
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> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:55:53 -0500
> From: Rob Funk <rfunk at funknet.net>
> Subject: Re: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga
> 2 Pro
> To: Central OH Linux User Group - 432xx <colug-432 at colug.net>
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> Eric Floehr wrote:
> > This was likely true at one time, but I've personally successfully
> > installed the most recent versions of Linux Mint[1], Ubuntu[2], and
> > Fedora[3] with Secure Boot enabled. This is on a Lenovo t440s which is a
> > cousin of the Yoga 2 Pro.
> >
> > So that likely isn't the problem. Whether or not Secure Boot is
> necessary,
> > required, or preferred is a different question.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> http://www.zdnet.com/linux-mint-17-hands-on-with-uefi-secure-boot-7000030092/
> > [2]
> >
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028388/two-ubuntu-linux-versions-can-now-work-with-secure-boot.html
> > [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secureboot
>
> Those solutions involve making sure you're using Microsoft-signed code
> to boot Linux. That's something that can easily go wrong, and we know
> that *something* is going wrong in the boot. Secure Boot may not be
> the culprit (we have no error messages), but it's a likely one, and
> it's an easy thing to try.
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:26:31 -0500
> From: FiL Farris <philipfarris at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [colug-432] Seeking technical assistance for Mint on Yoga
> 2 Pro
> To: Central OH Linux User Group - 432xx <colug-432 at colug.net>
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> I would suggest checking the legacy option as well. I have run into some
> issues with M2 ssds especially pci-e variety lately.
>
> The only issue with this though is 8 IS booting.
> On Nov 12, 2014 10:57 AM, "Rob Funk" <rfunk at funknet.net> wrote:
>
> > Eric Floehr wrote:
> > > This was likely true at one time, but I've personally successfully
> > > installed the most recent versions of Linux Mint[1], Ubuntu[2], and
> > > Fedora[3] with Secure Boot enabled. This is on a Lenovo t440s which is
> a
> > > cousin of the Yoga 2 Pro.
> > >
> > > So that likely isn't the problem. Whether or not Secure Boot is
> > necessary,
> > > required, or preferred is a different question.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> http://www.zdnet.com/linux-mint-17-hands-on-with-uefi-secure-boot-7000030092/
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028388/two-ubuntu-linux-versions-can-now-work-with-secure-boot.html
> > > [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secureboot
> >
> > Those solutions involve making sure you're using Microsoft-signed code
> > to boot Linux. That's something that can easily go wrong, and we know
> > that *something* is going wrong in the boot. Secure Boot may not be
> > the culprit (we have no error messages), but it's a likely one, and
> > it's an easy thing to try.
> >
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