[colug-432] systemd dislike

Chris Anderson canderson at foxtwo.net
Mon Mar 7 11:17:33 EST 2016

I am of the opinion that systemd is advantageous on desktops/laptops but
unnecessary bloat on servers. A lot of the features it offers are for
faster startup times, which is great for user machines but unnecessary for
a server (unless you're running a power-saving cluster that shuts members
down and powers them up dynamically).

It's easy to get sucked into the vortex of hate some people have for
systemd, but it has helped to bring Linux on the desktop closer to some
other desktop operating systems in boot performance.

As for servers, I like my init scripts and runlevels :)

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Rick Hornsby <richardjhornsby at gmail.com>

> > On Mar 7, 2016, at 08:18, Jim Wildman <jim at rossberry.com> wrote:
> >
> > Also installing the bash-completion package enables tab-tab completion
> > for systemctl commands and units...which is as handy as it sounds.
> > The first time you run it, it will be slow, after that it just works.
> >
> > You can also give it multiple commands
> >
> > systemctl restart A B C
> >
> > I can't say I like it, but it's easy enough to get used to.  It was
> > introduced right as I joined Red Hat and I thought there would be a great
> > hue and cry against it.  Crickets.  I think professional sysadmins just
> > don't care.
> Before jumping into RHEL7, which is where the transition from sysV to
> systemd happened (or rather, started - RHEL7 still supports sysv style init
> scripts) for Red Hat, I knew from playing in Debian/Ubuntu that systemd was
> a thing.  Linux (mostly RHEL) is my day job, so I groused about it a little
> at first and basically figured that’s the way Linux was going.
> systemd just one small part of overall sysadmin work, and configuration
> management tools like Puppet abstract you from the details, so I don’t
> think about it a whole lot until the topic comes up.
> > Just give me the documentation and get out of the way.
> Your point is well taken.  I think it’s probably a matter of just sitting
> down with it for a little while and looking for more utility out of systemd
> like the tips Zach gave.
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