[colug-432] talking to your ISP

Bill Baker bill_chris at earthlink.net
Fri Dec 28 01:10:05 EST 2012


OK, I have no idea what you're talking about now.  Who said anything
about southern Ohio?

On 12/28/2012 01:09 AM, Dan wrote:
> Ping to southern Ohio can bring slow results.
> 
> Bill Baker wrote:
>> That's why I advised him to call tech support.  They'll be able to
>> determine better what the problem is.
>>
>> On 12/28/2012 12:53 AM, Dan wrote:
>>> Did you stop to think that the slow response may be from a slow or busy
>>> server?
>>>
>>> Bill Baker wrote:
>>>> Yeah, I'd definitely talk to tech support if I were you.  I can tell you
>>>> that as far as I know, TWC doesn't do anything funky to manipulate any
>>>> speed test results on their site.  It's just a tool to measure how much
>>>> bandwidth you're getting within the TWC network.  I don't know about
>>>> speedboost, since we don't offer that in business class.  So far you've
>>>> done a lot more work before calling the techs than most people do.  But
>>>> do call them.  And if you're not satisfied with what the first tech
>>>> tells you, ask to be escalated to tier 3.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/27/2012 08:20 PM, Rick Hornsby wrote:
>>>>> Got an unsolicited email from Timewarner.  They're bumping my speed
>>>>> from 10 to 15 for free.  Supposedly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's where I can't figure out what I'm supposed to tell them, or
>>>>> the best way to show evidence that something is seriously wrong(?):
>>>>>
>>>>> KCMO to the following locations, downstream speeds right now:
>>>>>
>>>>> -> Columbus RR speed test: 30Mbps (?!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Via the speakeasy.net tests at http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ 
>>>>> -> Chicago: 6Mbps
>>>>> -> Dallas: 15.3Mbps
>>>>> -> Atlanta: 1.05Mbps
>>>>> -> New York, NY: 26.65Mbps (?!)
>>>>> -> Washington, DC: 0.91Mbps
>>>>>
>>>>> Via the dslreports flash speed test: 
>>>>> -> Denver: 2.5Mbps (other than Kansas City itself, the geographically closest of all) 
>>>>> -> Los Angeles: 4.0Mbps
>>>>>
>>>>> Via speedtest.net: 
>>>>> -> Kansas City: 2.67Mbps (this is where I start to get kinda pissed)
>>>>> -> Kansas City: 3.11Mbps
>>>>> -> Indepedence, MO (~30mi from KCMO): 25.6Mbps (...?) 
>>>>> -> Overland Park, KS (basically, SW Kansas City): a really sucky 0.34Mbps (was 1.0 on a re-test)
>>>>>
>>>>> I know there are a lot of factors that go into a download speed, and
>>>>> that download speed itself isn't everything.  I know that some
>>>>> servers can be overloaded, and that some links can get saturated.
>>>>> These figures are all over the map - both the location/distance and
>>>>> the speed.  I expect something far more consistent than this mess -
>>>>> even it is 3Mbps, or 6Mbps, or the full 15.  I certainly don't expect
>>>>> the kind of nonsense for the numbers for Kansas City[1].  Am I
>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this even TimeWarner's fault?  I can't figure it would be the
>>>>> local office, unless they're somehow fudging the numbers or doing
>>>>> something else nefarious to make the Columbus and NYC speeds seem way
>>>>> faster than they really are --- maybe there is something really
>>>>> screwy with my cablemodem?  It seems like whatever this is, is well
>>>>> beyond my modem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Could the TimeWarner "speedboost" caching nonsense be throwing the
>>>>> numbers off (I haven't and refuse to intentionally subscribe to that
>>>>> bit of marketing BS)?  Does anyone know if the speedtests take that
>>>>> sort of thing into account?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I just need to call during the day and talk to technical
>>>>> support as suggested?  Is there a way to increase my odds of getting
>>>>> a tech support person who might be knowledgeable?
>>>>>
>>>>> -rick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] I recall, some many years ago, a time when Ohio State and Time
>>>>> Warner had a peering agreement.  All was happy in the land of the
>>>>> remote X session, so few hops that it was.  Then something happened.
>>>>> The peering agreement went away.  Packets from two blocks north of
>>>>> campus flew all over yonder on their way over to KRC (Ohio State's
>>>>> main data center where all traffic goes in and out of, or did at that
>>>>> time) - Chicago, Cleveland, sometimes New York City!  X sessions were
>>>>> now slow and nearly impossible.  I don't know why it happened or what
>>>>> went down, but it was annoying to say the least. 
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